{"id":157,"date":"2018-11-07T13:56:00","date_gmt":"2018-11-07T13:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/madamssubhub.com\/index.php\/2018\/11\/07\/how-did-it-all-get-going-the-development-of-our-flr\/"},"modified":"2018-11-07T13:56:00","modified_gmt":"2018-11-07T13:56:00","slug":"how-did-it-all-get-going-the-development-of-our-flr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/madamssubhub.com\/index.php\/2018\/11\/07\/how-did-it-all-get-going-the-development-of-our-flr\/","title":{"rendered":"How did it all get going &#8211; The development of our FLR"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This was orginally posted by Madam on the 9 Aug 17 on our WordPress Blog.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve reposted it here as there has been several requests to us to explain how it all started<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">From Mistress Alice<span style=\"margin: 0px;\"> &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-HgGaa520yd8\/WydhXQRGaOI\/AAAAAAAAAFU\/JvmM8wMyOXMbiiE3SaVDlCQYho5z0COjgCPcBGAYYCw\/s1600\/alice-in-weird-land-02.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"833\" data-original-width=\"590\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-HgGaa520yd8\/WydhXQRGaOI\/AAAAAAAAAFU\/JvmM8wMyOXMbiiE3SaVDlCQYho5z0COjgCPcBGAYYCw\/s320\/alice-in-weird-land-02.jpg\" width=\"226\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">We&#8217;ve had an early start today and been and done our walk and sight seeing, a lovely lunch and now it is a bit of a relax.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>Mick has been directed to do a bit of research for changes to outfits but I&#8217;m sure he will tell you about that himself &#8211; he seems to be tapping away on the his tablet at the moment so I&#8217;m not sure if he is contacting people or drafting his post to the blog.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">so how did we get to where we are, we have explained why we did it but how did this FLR relationship come into it&#8217;s current form and how did we get it to work?<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">Our relationship was becoming a series of arguments and clashing of heads in 2001, Mick&#8217;s work frustrations and stress and my frustrations with life.&nbsp; when Mick had his breakdown the air cleared and we had a really good heart to heart.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>Our sex life had been very adventurous (for us at the time) and we both had done a bit of role play, bit of crossdressing and fetish play.&nbsp; we had some a bit of Dom\/sub playing (and that was what it was &#8211; playing) each taking turns to be the Dom.&nbsp; The two surprises what that I really enjoyed the power trip and the feelings that it gave me and the other was that Mick struggled to take on the role &#8211; surprising as he was definitely an Alpha male in his work environment.&nbsp; Mick was far more comfortable when he was in the submissive role.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">during our Heart to Heart Mick explained that he hated the arguments but he was just losing control of work and life, but he didn&#8217;t want to lose me.&nbsp; he wanted me to be his focus and as we talked we discussed how he would manage his work and how we would have to adjust our lives.&nbsp; So the seeds were sown where I would become the Alpha in the relationship and Mick the submissive, Mick would finish his current contract and move to the consulting side of the industry &#8211; all of this just didn&#8217;t happen but took almost 9 months of talking, trying things, talking again and learning.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">in the past we had both read a magazine called FORUM, (bear in mind this was 2001 and the internet was not the mine of information that it is now) and I went back through some old copies that we still had and read some of the articles and stories &#8211; some were clearly just that &#8211; Stories, but I did get some ideas.&nbsp; On my next trip to London I went and picked up a current copy of FORUM and also called into a shop that I had visited with Mick before &#8211; Honour (near Waterloo Station) and picked up a couple of other magazines hoping to get some more ideas.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">In the back of most of these publications there would be&nbsp; adverts for Mistress and contacts but you would also get personal ads.&nbsp; In one I found personal ad from a Dominant Wife with a submissive sissy who was looking to develop his training.&nbsp; while this wasn&#8217;t what I wanted it did offer a potential insight to what\/ where I wanted to travel.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">That evening I wrote (pen and paper were still in fashion at this point) asking the Wife if she could give me some pointers and advice so that I could develop the relationship with Mick.&nbsp; I posted it to the PO Box number with the vain hope that it might get a response &#8211; my hopes at this point were not high.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>2 weeks later I came home to a letter, neatly written, from a lady that referred to herself as Mistress Carol, it was polite but blunt warning me that if I was a male thrill seeker then I could piss off, but if I was a fledgling Dom I should write again with more details. we corresponded for a about 6 weeks by post and then I was asked to provide a phone number and times when I would be in preferably when Mick was not.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">Mistress Carol called about a week after the letter had been posted and our relationship started to take off.&nbsp; we would chat twice a week, me with questions and Carol with advice (she had dropped the Mistress title once she realised that I was genuine and wanted help and guidance).&nbsp; <\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">3 months after starting all of this correspondence and calls it was decided that we should meet and So Mistress Carol became my mentor on the way to becoming Mistress Alice.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">Carol was a woman in her early 40s, she had been widowed in her 20&#8217;s after a car accident that almost killed her but took her husband.&nbsp; She had been working part time and slightly struggling to make ends meet and had been asked by a friend if she would like earn a bit of money helping her friend who was doing some Domination work, the way Carol explains it is far more interesting but it gave her a real insight to the scene and also an understanding about the different elements of Domination and Submission.&nbsp; Carol can explain the difference between the 2 hour whipping session with a paying client and a lifestyle choice.&nbsp; while it provided her work it also meant that she was invited out into the fetish scene in London over the years she had a number of relationships but she found that she had a thing for submissive sissies and that is were she met her sissy Kerri, at that point called Kevin (Kerri is far cuter that Kevin).&nbsp; Kevin is 18 years her junior.&nbsp; When I first met Carol she had married Kerri 2 years previously and she had trained him to be her submissive sissy.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">Carol spent the weekend explaining a lot of the basics and fundamentals and it was great to meet Kerri and see what could be done.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>The biggest take away from the meeting was that there is a difference with Dom Sub play and a FLR.&nbsp; Carol was working\/ playing in the Dominatrix world but had a FLR as part of her home life.&nbsp; she had reduced her Dom work and was wanting to do a bit more with her sissy to get that home life where she wanted it.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>She was quite upfront with me, she would help me, explain things to me&nbsp; &#8211; show me where appropriate. but I would also be required to help with her development of Kerri.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">Over the next 12 months I learned a lot about the emotional side of FLR and how not to mess it up, how to understand the needs of the submissive are really, really important &#8211; often more important than those of the Dominant.&nbsp; it allowed me to get our relationship right with Mick and to create sissy billie.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span>Carol also helped to train billie, this was introduced about 12 months into our FLR.&nbsp; <\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">when we started with Chastity (about 2005) we both took billie and Kerrie to London to purchase their cages together and both Carol and I are the secondary Keyholders for each others sissy.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\"> &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-OCPz4kDPNO4\/W-Lu831PGHI\/AAAAAAAAAR0\/hCCVitiNdII6eslRG6cIc0yq0AYtuwEbwCLcBGAs\/s1600\/tumblr_ouqcrkZmXt1vghsoio1_1280.jpg\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1280\" data-original-width=\"957\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-OCPz4kDPNO4\/W-Lu831PGHI\/AAAAAAAAAR0\/hCCVitiNdII6eslRG6cIc0yq0AYtuwEbwCLcBGAs\/s320\/tumblr_ouqcrkZmXt1vghsoio1_1280.jpg\" width=\"239\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\"><span style=\"margin: 0px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">We are very good friends and regularly meet up to play and for vanilla get to gethers.&nbsp; billie will at least twice a year be sent back to Mistress Carol for refresher training &#8211; almost like a Quality Assurance process to ensure that he\/she is still suitably submissive and still can maintain the appropriate standards as a sissy maid and servant to her Mistress.&nbsp; while billie dreads his training assessments I do think he enjoys meeting with sissy kerri as they are &#8220;very&#8221; good friends.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll discuss that further later.<span style=\"margin: 0px;\">&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 72px;\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0px;\">well that&#8217;s enough for now, time to have a cup of tea and get ready for this evening. <\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 0px 0px 0px 96px;\"><\/div>\n<p><b><\/b><i><\/i><u><\/u><sub><\/sub><sup><\/sup><strike><\/strike><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This was orginally posted by Madam on the 9 Aug 17 on our WordPress Blog.&nbsp; 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